Zezo forum:

Post by zezo | 2018-01-06 | 13:18:50

A new version is out

Previous announcement for reference"

http://zezo.org/forum.pl?tid=6216

Changes:

by mak08:

- Calculation of the path when gybing/tacking to avoid confusion about calculated speed.
- Color coding of penalties and speed difference

by me:

- handling of some changed protocol messages to get the boat name (and rank in Jules Verne)
- hide card info when you purchase a Full Pack
- various small fixes like display "-" instead of NaN in data fields for a race that is on hold

47 Comments

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2018-01-06 | 14:16:44

looks fine too me:
- yellow for smalle deviation of vC and vR ?
- orange for a big deviation? or is that always related to a penalty (tack, gybe, sailchange)?

Would be nice to make the wrong sail color also orange in stead of red. Than it becomes a warning, rather than an alarm like for aground.

Thanks guys!

Post by mak08 | 2018-01-06 | 16:38:32

The vC background color is currently determined as follows:

- RED if a penalty is in progress. (actual color name is 'tomato' :-))
In this case the penalty column(s) also have a red background

- YELLOW if the vC differs from vR by more than 1%, for whatever reason.
If the boat changes course (but does not tack or gybe) for example.

There's some discussion whether this is useful or not. Your input is welcome.

Post by zezo | 2018-01-06 | 17:02:35

Ooops. I took a quick glance at the code and assumed something else.

I think we need third color for sub-optimal sail.

It's not big deal because you have other indication for that in the main table, but could be useful to check how much you lost few hours ago because of the (slightly) wrong sail.

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2018-01-06 | 17:09:33

or how much you will if you considering avoiding two sailchange penalties

Post by mak08 | 2018-01-06 | 18:12:09

Hmm, the dashboard cannot see into the future, only the router can :-)
How about this suggestion:
If vR and vC agree but vT differs we're in a bad sail situation. In this case, we could compute the delta distance based on vT and display both values in the Δd column.

Post by zezo | 2018-01-06 | 18:18:45

Was going to say the same - dashboard does not have global wind information.

The idea about the three speeds should work very well.

Post by GeGaX | 2018-01-06 | 18:42:05

Hi cvetan and mak08 ;) ,
Congratulations you have done a good job again ;)
One thing does not work for me, the name of the boat remains 'unknown' (MB Pro mid 2012, macOS HighSierra) while at work it works (DELL Vostro serie 3000, Win 7 Pro)... I do not know why ...

Post by zezo | 2018-01-06 | 19:18:52

The boat name is sent by the server in 3 cases:

1) Login (enter Unity UI from home VR home page)
2) Rank message received
3) Initial state message when entering game (but it's also about rank)

Please right-click in the extension tab and Inspect the console messages before trying anything else (because it will probably work if you reload the entire page)

Post by GeGaX | 2018-01-06 | 20:22:57

I reloaded the VR page and restarted VR Dashboard and it works but I had already done before writing on the forum and it had not worked ...
To be continued, thanks ;)

PS :A suggestion :
Put in blue HDG (to better see the difference) in black is not so visible that when aTWA is disabled

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2018-01-07 | 02:52:16

just another idea:

How about adding reported sail to vR and making the cells vR and vT orange when there is a sail change warning?

I think that would make the maths easy on a sailchange penalty:
1. lost distance is 150/3600*vC (with winches) or 37.5/3600*vC with winches
2. time to recover [h] = delta_v [nm/h] / lost_distance [nm]

Post by NickOlson | 2018-01-07 | 05:10:27

What does the yellow box mean and the negative values?
http://share.predictwind.com/2K2o3J1s2M3b

Post by mak08 | 2018-01-07 | 05:32:56

The yellow background is used when vC differs from vR but not because of a penalty. This is supposed to happen only at course changes that are not tacks or gybes.

In your case the server sent a negative time increment but my code wasn't prepared for that. Instead it concluded that you travelled backwards at double light speed or so.
Please ignore. We'll fix it with the next update.

Edit:
Btw. The server sent three position updates with timestamps 00:26:58, 00:26:56 and 00:26:58, respectively, when only one was expected. Must be some kind of VR server hickup. Others have reported this including zezo I think, but I've never seen it personally.

Post by NickOlson | 2018-01-07 | 08:39:54

Awesome. thanks for the explanation.

Post by feriber | 2018-01-12 | 10:22:27

Hi, I've noticed this behavior.

If you change course, and sail alltogether, the plugin reports your speed penalty, coloring vC and sail cells with red background, but sail cell has no value.

If you change course first. Let the app confirm this change, and afterwards you change the sail, then the plugin reports your speed penalty, coloring vC and sail cells with red background, and sail cell shows now the penalty applied.

Best regards and thank you very much to all who are involved in this nice eSport ;)

Post by mak08 | 2018-01-12 | 11:07:19

It really depends on when the 75s (assuming pro winches) penalty starts w.r.t to the 120s update cycle. The dashboard just displays the penalty time remaining after the end of the resp. update cycle. If the penalty has completed within the cycle, the dashboard still recognizes that there was a penalty during parts of the interval and displays speed and penalty column in red.

Post by feriber | 2018-01-12 | 14:06:02

Understood.
Thanks again.

Post by mcmgj | 2018-01-12 | 20:23:16

Please use "light red" instead "red" it's will be better to read ...

Post by GeGaX | 2018-01-12 | 21:03:09

And HDG in Blue 😋

Post by zezo | 2018-01-12 | 23:56:23

We already have that in our private repository, just have not published the last version ;-)

Post by GeGaX | 2018-01-13 | 00:25:04

Cool, when you publish it ?

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2018-01-12 | 12:29:07

without winches, it is easier to see as the penalty time (300 s) always exceeds the two minute interval ..

Post by mak08 | 2018-01-18 | 01:59:17

Just published a minor update.
Changes:

- When using a slow sail, the 'theoretical' Δd is displayed in addition to the actual Δd, so you can easily see how much you've lost. Also Δd is displayed with 3 digits now.

- HGD is displayed in blue when sailing with fixed heading.

- 'Light red' backgrounds (instead of red) for better readability.

Post by feriber | 2018-01-18 | 03:31:26

Thanks a lot.
Good job as always.

Post by mcmgj | 2018-01-19 | 02:21:14

Thank you to have reached my request...

But I always have to change parameters for the call of zezo because I play with several boats equipped differently

Post by mak08 | 2018-01-23 | 19:40:12

Just published bugfix version 1.1.3.
This should fix the bogus vC and Δd values (reported by mcmgj and DancingDjMike).
vC is now always positive, even if Δt is negative.

Post by ghelle | 2018-01-24 | 11:35:30

Hello folks!
the extension works perfectly!
I have a question : i try to develop a java software to help me in my strategy and i need VR boat position input. How i can use the chrome extension for that? Is it possible to have the boat data in a file?

Thx for your help!

Guillaume

Post by mak08 | 2018-01-25 | 20:53:15

The extension currently does not export any data to file, so you'll have to copy&paste the data, sorry.

We might add functions to export track and position data to gpx and polars to csv, but we need to finish the next release first, and it's not clear if this feature is really much needed.

Post by GeGaX | 2018-01-25 | 22:09:23

Can we have the changelog of the next version? ;)

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2018-01-25 | 21:08:20

the VR Dashboard is logging position reports, so you could intercept them in the same way. Than you need to get lon/lat into your java app. by the way, why use java stil as it is being phased out in browser for security reasons.

Post by zezo | 2018-01-26 | 09:22:58

There are two possible solutions:

1) Make your app listen to a HTTP requests, then modify the extension to send position updates to it. About 5 lines of actual code if done on a private copy. More if it needs configuration page etc for general use.

2) Use the filesystem api. Extensions can write to files, and those are visible to the outside world, but not mapped directly, so require additional work to find the data. On the other hand can be useful for persistent internal storage

3) Not related to the original question, but for export purposes it's possible to implement client-side generation of a Download-able file.

Post by GeGaX | 2018-01-28 | 21:52:53

Post by GeGaX | 2018-01-28 | 22:01:24

Different sail between the interface and the calculated speed
No penalty when changing the sail and then AutoSail activation

Post by GeGaX | 2018-01-28 | 23:40:03

If you add 12h aSail you have penality ...

Post by nsp | 2018-01-29 | 08:26:22

Hi Guys,

I noticed that in Clipper somehow the ranking in second column it is not automatically updating as it is happening with all other values.

In order to update it i had to refresh the 3D and back to satellite for the ranking to regularly update. If i don't do this it keeps for a number of logs always with the same value.

Maybe something easy to fix? Or something new from game side that is not allowing the ranking to auto update...

Cheers

Nuno

PS: i think the same is happening with DTL but that is more difficult to verify, but i notice that it keeps long times in same values and coincidentally when i refresh for update ranking , it also changes, but i am not sure.

Post by GeGaX | 2018-01-29 | 08:33:32

By chance, when the ranking does not update, at the top left the name of the boat is 'unknown' ?

Post by nsp | 2018-01-29 | 09:25:51

no... it says my boat name

Post by mak08 | 2018-01-29 | 09:09:22

It seems that VR does not send the LDB_GetLegRank message anymore, or maybe they've switched of continuous ranking in the inital phase of the race. I'll check this later in more detail.

Post by GeGaX | 2018-01-29 | 09:17:23

They send it but differently ..., I disconnect and then reconnects between 2 iterations of 120sec, my boat name appears and my ranking.

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2018-01-29 | 10:57:13

I think they sent a ranking update about 5 to 10 seconds after the location update is received/displayed in VR Dashboard. Just have a look at the VR-client in the browser after you see the location update in VR Dashboard. It adjusts 5 to 10 seconds later and that seems to me right after the ranking is update with a new position update in the server (DTL changes at that moment).

Don't know how it is represented in the server-client messages.

Post by nsp | 2018-01-29 | 19:59:39

Yes but then the next update at least would recover the last "late" ranking and DTL update and I can confirm yo now..at least for me, it doesn't update at all for hours if i don't refresh it in game.

Most of the times to not say all the time the main UI top left ranking doesn't even assume the changes in ranking that already occured in 3D and "rankings", if I want to update it I have to go to 3D or "rankings".

Is this happening only with me?

Getting a bit upset, my side bug or VR bug?

ANother thing i Noticed in this Clipper is that it is sometimes difficult to click in a boat and update it's position in game map. It works with some boats and it's a nightmare to do it with some others.

Post by mak08 | 2018-01-29 | 20:09:14

It's not a bug on either side I'd say. But VR have changed when they send the LDB_GetLegRank message. I currently don't see ranking info in the continuous race updates :-(

Post by nsp | 2018-01-29 | 20:48:17

I understand, but if it also doesn't update the ranking in main top left game UI without you going to 3D or to "rankings" tab may be a bug, right? In that specific situation, I mean.

Post by Ursus Maritimus | 2018-01-29 | 21:11:05

now that you mention it, that is different than it was. sent a support ticket to VR because this is not handy at all.

and maybe that brings a better ranking / dtl update for VR Dashboard ;)

Post by nsp | 2018-01-30 | 03:40:18

Great!!! Your tickets full of zombie shoot'em up game stories always make an impact :))) I'm sure the bug will be fixed and everyobody will be "fu...ng like minks, raising rug rats, and living happily ever after" :P