Post by iconPost by MaxHipshot | 2010-05-02 | 12:48:58

Hi Cvetan,

Got a request mate.
Would it be possible to reserve a small area of the screen with a tabular output of routepoints?

My suggestion:

<Time> <postion> <Course> <Sail> <- blue.. game wind-change time
<Time> <postion> <Course> <Sail> <- black .. intermediate routepoints
...
<Time> <postion> <Course> <Sail> <- blue.. game wind-change time
etc

This way we could copy/paste in a text-editor and use it for planning courses more easily. A skipper could decide to use the intermediates or only the wind-change elements.

Thanks for considering.
Hip.

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Post by iconPost by Frankfurt | 2010-05-04 | 23:06:50
This issue has been discussed and decided a long time ago.

Cvetan decided against giving the data out in text form. If he did, people would import these data into their (forbidden) programmable pilots, that way building a fully automatic pilot.

The deeper issue is: how much hand work and how much automation should be in the game?

Complete hand work would imply to stay up all night, which would quickly alianate most players. So: not a good idea.

Fully automatic pilots are not very funny either, because than the computers would play against each other and not the players / sailors / humans. Who wants that? The regatta would end up being a programming contest.

The GAME decided to only allow their programmable pilots but not those built by the players themselves. I think this is not very convincing; it has a notion of them wanting to sell us their programmable pilot and get the 10 € from us.

And their programmable pilot can't even change sails...
Post by iconPost by zezo | 2010-05-06 | 19:01:27
Thanks for answering this one. Nothing happens here for weeks, but when I leave it unattended for two days there are about 20 new posts ;)

btw in the newer games the auto sails option works with the pro sails, so the last point is fixed.

btw2 the tabular output can be extracted from the page source with some creativity, and I'm aware of at least one person doing exactly this, but it's left as an exercise for the reader ;)
Post by iconPost by OldChapZ | 2010-05-16 | 11:16:18
Extracting the Data is not the the tricky part (heard about Regex ? )

But validating WayPoints (pretty circles around by weak winds and slow speed) and manage winds and forecasts changes is a bunch of surprises.

My boat's positons (6) were 1500/2000 at 6h58 this morning and 82000+ at 7h08. I have no idea of what happened.

[Edit]
I was aiming the wrong coordinates (Thanks MP : 2° W). Till 7h00 the two routes forecasted by Zezo were identical. Not after !
Post by iconPost by Frankfurt | 2010-05-21 | 23:32:33
You were probably overtaken by the pilotboat. The pilotboat groups all those that do not sail / login. Thus, the pilotboat covers tens of thousands of places.
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Rounding a Buoy
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VR Waypoint Heavy Bug Reporting
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Time of ending Jules Verne
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Shore detection by Zezo
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Nord Stream Race 2
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Trying to Break the VR Map Mistery !
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Navigating to "xxx.0" TWA
26
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Tara4 - no refresh
2
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Jules Verne: Inconsistency of headings and speeds, simulation !!
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VR, Zezo, Qtvlm card offsets
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Island's coordinates
34
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Tara Ocean 4
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Solo Maitre Coq
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Adjustable timeshift ?
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gate crossing question
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Expanded View on PC
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Panic at VR Nord
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Delays during the sail changes, or directions changes
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(Game wind = Zezo wind ) ⍯ (Grib winds = Windy.com)
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VR ending the ELO ranking.
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NMEA feed
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Dashboard Map Track Label not including the segment.tag
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VR ingame time
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VIRTUAL REGATTA and Phillip Ganier. Worst and worst every day...
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beta.realsail.net
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Escort Frigate
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Out of memory. If you are the developer of this content ....
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Question about GFS Grib
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RORC Caribbean 600
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sliding VSR
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Trying to use Zezo to select best combination of sails to select
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TARA OCEAN 3
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RORC Transatlantique Race
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Game appears stuck on 00Z weather from yesterday
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Sydney to Auckland
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Personal Message pages deleted
7
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New zezo fonction
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VR Ranking 2021
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Autosail malfunction
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Comments from a newbie to "long term" routing
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Massive thanks to Cvetan
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Fleet section mode record not working
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Possible routes on the Map tab
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Purple skippers on VR Dashboard
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UTC or CET time ?
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multiple routes?
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Real Sail
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Map a little gloomy
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Trophée Jules Verne - Route à l'envers ?
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Looks like weather updates offline for next 18h
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Bring the good old days back
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All.grib 0.0k ?
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different speed
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Strange 0.5 mille VR Scale
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Just an idea for a new feature...
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Connexion impossible
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Donations
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New leader - seems to be using Zezo
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Bravo Zezo
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zezo : Huge job - Huge thx
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Difference between boat speed display on VR, dashboard and polar curves
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Vendée Globe: Track lines falling too short of ischrones
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Tara Ocean
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VR winds currently not up to date ?
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"Sails Change" within the Programming
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RORC Transat finish moved to Antigua
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Weather update not appearing...
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Dashboard not updating.
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Boats Skins Vendée Globe
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Safari on iOS: Bearing lines gone
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Wrong coordinates in zezo
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Winds in the chart do not show changes between 78 hours and 114 hours forecast
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Decoding of All grib
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I CANNOT ENTER FOR 3 HOURS IN THE GAME
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Why the vc data is yellow underlined ?
3
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Jules Verne 2020 - "Start NOW" discrepancy VS real time
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Would like to know the reasenable time to update your pisition on zezo
16
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Arrival Vendée Globe in Normandy !!?
4
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MIssing the Obvious: How to get Zezo routes back into VR
2
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VG 2020-01-02 has Zezo a problem with geographic or ...
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How to retrieve a waypoint (TWA/HDG) that already passed...
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Track duration window
3
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Ways to bypass the client to give orders?
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Problem to Load zero route in windy.com
40
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French tutorial for zezo
4
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boat positioning
2
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Export routes in GPX format ?
4
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Sail selection issue ?
11
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Your friends boats in Google Earth
2
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Delay in Wind update ?N
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VR Dashboard
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