Post by iconPost by natto | 2017-12-18 | 00:23:07

Hi Cvetan. Does the router factor the penalty for a sail change in to the optimal course?
- Nat (natsail)

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Post by iconPost by toxcct | 2017-12-18 | 00:24:22
It does. It's the reason you can choose ProWinches option, which gives a different penalty when activated...
Post by iconPost by natto | 2017-12-18 | 00:30:07
ahh yes I should have figured that out! Thank you!
Post by iconPost by Sir_Petrus | 2017-12-18 | 03:06:48
I saw penalties, but last time I didn't notice that in the monitor. So now I am not shure about that any more. Did they change the rules or not? I will see next time. Maybe.
Post by iconPost by natto | 2017-12-18 | 04:52:17
my dashboard indicated about 30% penalty for iteration following last sail change earlier today (distance traveled dropped from ~.76 to .54 NM for the 2 min. cycle then back to ~.76).
Post by iconPost by Ursus Maritimus | 2017-12-18 | 08:24:11
with pro winches it is 75 s at 50% speed. when that falls within two updates, your average speed over those 120 s wil drop by 75/120*50% = 31%. (31% off .76 nm = .52 nm plus some rounding errors)

the 75 s could also be spread over two update cycles but you will still loose the same distance. in this case you see the remaining sail change penalty time in the first update
Post by iconPost by Inicio | 2017-12-18 | 08:30:42
A friend has just checked that the penalty is still active when you force the exit of the AutoSail by manually choosing the same sail you are carrying, even if there is no real sail change.
Post by iconPost by gushami | 2017-12-27 | 21:23:01
When sailing in increasing/decreasing winds at optimal twa using full options, how useful is the Spinnaker?
E.g. if I move from windspeeds of 17.8 to 19.5 knts during one hour in Clipper race, would it be better to go directly from LG to HG sailing with a "bad sail" for a while instead of taking the extra sail change penalty?

Post by iconPost by mcmgj | 2017-12-28 | 06:04:29


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VR, Zezo, Qtvlm card offsets
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Island's coordinates
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Tara Ocean 4
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Solo Maitre Coq
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Adjustable timeshift ?
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gate crossing question
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Expanded View on PC
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Panic at VR Nord
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Delays during the sail changes, or directions changes
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(Game wind = Zezo wind ) ⍯ (Grib winds = Windy.com)
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VR ending the ELO ranking.
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NMEA feed
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Dashboard Map Track Label not including the segment.tag
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VR ingame time
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VIRTUAL REGATTA and Phillip Ganier. Worst and worst every day...
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beta.realsail.net
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Escort Frigate
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Out of memory. If you are the developer of this content ....
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Question about GFS Grib
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RORC Caribbean 600
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sliding VSR
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Trying to use Zezo to select best combination of sails to select
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TARA OCEAN 3
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RORC Transatlantique Race
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Game appears stuck on 00Z weather from yesterday
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Sydney to Auckland
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Personal Message pages deleted
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New zezo fonction
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VR Ranking 2021
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Autosail malfunction
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Comments from a newbie to "long term" routing
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Massive thanks to Cvetan
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Fleet section mode record not working
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Possible routes on the Map tab
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Purple skippers on VR Dashboard
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UTC or CET time ?
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multiple routes?
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Real Sail
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Map a little gloomy
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Trophée Jules Verne - Route à l'envers ?
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Looks like weather updates offline for next 18h
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Bring the good old days back
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All.grib 0.0k ?
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different speed
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Strange 0.5 mille VR Scale
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Just an idea for a new feature...
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Connexion impossible
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Donations
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New leader - seems to be using Zezo
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Bravo Zezo
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zezo : Huge job - Huge thx
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Difference between boat speed display on VR, dashboard and polar curves
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Vendée Globe: Track lines falling too short of ischrones
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Tara Ocean
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VR winds currently not up to date ?
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"Sails Change" within the Programming
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RORC Transat finish moved to Antigua
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Weather update not appearing...
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Dashboard not updating.
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Boats Skins Vendée Globe
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Safari on iOS: Bearing lines gone
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Wrong coordinates in zezo
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Winds in the chart do not show changes between 78 hours and 114 hours forecast
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Decoding of All grib
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I CANNOT ENTER FOR 3 HOURS IN THE GAME
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Why the vc data is yellow underlined ?
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Jules Verne 2020 - "Start NOW" discrepancy VS real time
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Would like to know the reasenable time to update your pisition on zezo
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Arrival Vendée Globe in Normandy !!?
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MIssing the Obvious: How to get Zezo routes back into VR
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VG 2020-01-02 has Zezo a problem with geographic or ...
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How to retrieve a waypoint (TWA/HDG) that already passed...
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Track duration window
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Ways to bypass the client to give orders?
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Problem to Load zero route in windy.com
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French tutorial for zezo
4
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boat positioning
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Export routes in GPX format ?
4
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Sail selection issue ?
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Your friends boats in Google Earth
2
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Delay in Wind update ?N
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VR Dashboard
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