Post by iconPost by SamO | 2019-01-05 | 14:36:32

Hi,

first of all I congratulate the author of this website, great job...
I began to play VR game with the Route du Rhum in october, then I started the Jules Vernes Trophy without routing tools. All was rather good until Horn Cabo (1700e), then the return along south America was a disaster... So looking for the polars' sails on internet in order to try to build a kind of routing tools with a few more days of prediction, I found the zezo's website. Surprise, all is already done ! Even the better day to start ! Great !

So now I am very curious to check what would have been my better path with grib archive (that I also found here). Not sure that this simulator can do it, I am right ? I didn't find issue in the forum. Otherwise I saw that there was other routing tools (like qvtlm) is one can do the job ? And I should configure the VR's polars and foil effect inside, maybe not so easy...

Thanks

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Post by iconPost by zezo | 2019-01-05 | 15:15:04
I've done retrospective routing before - to see how close was the leg winner to the "perfect track" in few VOR legs. It's always been pretty close with 100k participating boats.

But it's a manual configuration, and a round-the world race can't be done in one step, you need 5 or more, with overlapping segments and some human intervention.

As for third party tools - you can have the foils, polish and everything in the polars, so that's not a problem. The main difference is the wind interpolation algorithm, which is pretty specific to the game.

You can use the single grib files from my archive - like 20190105_000.grib, to build a 40-day view , but you have to download about 320 of them.
Post by iconPost by SamO | 2019-01-05 | 18:03:53
Ok, thanks for your answer Zezo, I understand it's not possible to do it automatically with your online Simulator (you ever did it but manually), so I will try with an other tool.

My goal is only to simulate the path from Horn Cabo to the equator, with the first grib it's sufficient, the one edited when I was on the Horn Cabo line (all_2018_12_23_12z). Just to see what would have been the ideal choice for a routing tool at this moment compared with my choice (hours of reflexion !), which was to sail really near (too much) to the coast... It looks like I've been trapped.
And for the specific wind interpolation I think it should have low consequences for this comparison.
Post by iconPost by zezo | 2019-01-05 | 18:30:33
The all_* files contain forecast data. The single files are what was actually used in the game. It's a 'what could have been' vs 'what would it be'


That part is always a lottery.

Most of the time an offshore route wins. You can gain a bit on thermal winds in the beginning, but then have worse angle after Rio. And usually it's close - less than 12 hours difference from Cape to the equator. But in 1 or 2 cases in 10 the coastal route can win.
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Rounding a Buoy
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VR Waypoint Heavy Bug Reporting
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Time of ending Jules Verne
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Shore detection by Zezo
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Nord Stream Race 2
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Trying to Break the VR Map Mistery !
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Navigating to "xxx.0" TWA
26
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Tara4 - no refresh
2
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Jules Verne: Inconsistency of headings and speeds, simulation !!
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VR, Zezo, Qtvlm card offsets
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Island's coordinates
34
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Tara Ocean 4
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Solo Maitre Coq
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Adjustable timeshift ?
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gate crossing question
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Expanded View on PC
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Panic at VR Nord
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Delays during the sail changes, or directions changes
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(Game wind = Zezo wind ) ⍯ (Grib winds = Windy.com)
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VR ending the ELO ranking.
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NMEA feed
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Dashboard Map Track Label not including the segment.tag
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VR ingame time
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VIRTUAL REGATTA and Phillip Ganier. Worst and worst every day...
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beta.realsail.net
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Escort Frigate
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Out of memory. If you are the developer of this content ....
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Question about GFS Grib
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RORC Caribbean 600
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sliding VSR
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Trying to use Zezo to select best combination of sails to select
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TARA OCEAN 3
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RORC Transatlantique Race
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Game appears stuck on 00Z weather from yesterday
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Sydney to Auckland
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Personal Message pages deleted
7
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New zezo fonction
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VR Ranking 2021
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Autosail malfunction
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Comments from a newbie to "long term" routing
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Massive thanks to Cvetan
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Fleet section mode record not working
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Possible routes on the Map tab
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Purple skippers on VR Dashboard
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UTC or CET time ?
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multiple routes?
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Real Sail
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Map a little gloomy
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Trophée Jules Verne - Route à l'envers ?
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Looks like weather updates offline for next 18h
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Bring the good old days back
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All.grib 0.0k ?
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different speed
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Strange 0.5 mille VR Scale
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Just an idea for a new feature...
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Connexion impossible
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Donations
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New leader - seems to be using Zezo
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Bravo Zezo
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zezo : Huge job - Huge thx
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Difference between boat speed display on VR, dashboard and polar curves
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Vendée Globe: Track lines falling too short of ischrones
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Tara Ocean
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VR winds currently not up to date ?
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"Sails Change" within the Programming
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RORC Transat finish moved to Antigua
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Weather update not appearing...
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Dashboard not updating.
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Boats Skins Vendée Globe
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Safari on iOS: Bearing lines gone
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Wrong coordinates in zezo
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Winds in the chart do not show changes between 78 hours and 114 hours forecast
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Decoding of All grib
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I CANNOT ENTER FOR 3 HOURS IN THE GAME
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Why the vc data is yellow underlined ?
3
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Jules Verne 2020 - "Start NOW" discrepancy VS real time
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Would like to know the reasenable time to update your pisition on zezo
16
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Arrival Vendée Globe in Normandy !!?
4
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MIssing the Obvious: How to get Zezo routes back into VR
2
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VG 2020-01-02 has Zezo a problem with geographic or ...
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How to retrieve a waypoint (TWA/HDG) that already passed...
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Track duration window
3
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Ways to bypass the client to give orders?
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Problem to Load zero route in windy.com
40
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French tutorial for zezo
4
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boat positioning
2
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Export routes in GPX format ?
4
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Sail selection issue ?
11
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Your friends boats in Google Earth
2
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Delay in Wind update ?N
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VR Dashboard
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